Thursday, October 17, 2019

[Spoilers] War, Hypocrisy, and Game of Thrones

From S6 onward, Daenerys is advised by Tyrion – and at first, herself agrees – to not take King’s Landing with her forces immediately. In fact, Tyrion – according to certain notes – is said to want a ‘’bloodless revolution’’ (https://twitter.com/burns_alana/status/1156370338344787968) in King’s Landing. Never mind how implausible the idea of such a revolution would be, as Cersei would never back down peacefully (this was clear from S6 alone, to say nothing of S7 or S8) and would unquestionably choose ‘’violence’’ in one form or another. However, the weird part is that Daenerys – and only Daenerys – is held to this standard.

No one blamed or attacked Stannis for trying to storm and retake King’s Landing from the Lannisters. People in fact called him the ‘’Mannis’’, and GRRM himself dubbed him a ‘’righteous man’’ (he does this in both the books and the show, so even if Show!Stannis is much more evil than his book counterpart, it’s not because of his decision to storm KL which is common to both versions). Likewise, Robb was planning to storm KL himself in S1 in order to save Ned from the Lannisters, even calling all his banners: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR8nlgMKW7Q

Never mind the fact that even in real life, going to the enemy base or nation is kind of important at times to fully defeat the enemy. The Allies didn't just attack Nazi Germany from outside, they went inside at one point and even battled the Nazis there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Allied_invasion_of_Germany#Montgomery_launches_Operation_Plunder_(23_March))

The reality is, sometimes in war, you have to go in and fight the enemy in their home area. This is often a place where civilians also live. While that does not justify killing civilians willy nilly, it does kind of weaken the excuse Tyrion and many far-left liberal types today have towards war and conflict. Sometimes the only way vicious tyrants can be removed (and innocent people on both sides be protected) is through direct war and movement to defeat the enemy leadership. Ensuring that there are zero civilian casualties may be difficult or even impossible. Ultimately, it’s impossible to fully, truly prevent this but this shouldn’t get in the way of an overthrow.

I've also seen people saying Dany trying to take King's Landing from Cersei is a bad thing, because that might end up killing people. Never mind the fact that the Iron Throne is hers by right since Jon ceded it to her. On the other hand, literally no one had a problem with Jon and Sansa wanting to retake Winterfell from the Boltons, even though a lot of the Northern houses actually swore fealty to the Boltons anyway and didn’t want to help the Starks. Never mind the fact that the war to retake Winterfell could also potentially kill innocents there.

Even in Dany’s case, the soldiers she goes up against are humanized and presented to Arya as normal peasants with their own lives and families. However, the Bolton and Frey soldiers we saw on the show do not get this treatment, and any ‘’good’’ or ‘’innocent’’ Boltons or Freys are pretty much absent. Why do Lannister troops get humanized but not those on the Starks' opposite side?



Submitted October 17, 2019 at 02:32AM by saminstark https://ift.tt/2OV2d0Y

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