in 5x12, Rick says to Deanna, "people measure you by how much they can take from you." What brought this on?

He says this during the interview: https://youtu.be/75r4ZA22Lrs?t=166

"It's all about survival now at any costs. People out there are always looking for an angle, looking to play on your weakness. They measure you by what they can take from you, by how they can use you to live."

What a dark moment.

But which experiences led Rick to this conclusion?

• Terminus? I guess - but I think they weren't so much "looking for an angle" and more "straight up trying to make you all cannibals."
• The Governor? Yeah, but he barely spoke to that guy, and as far as he was concerned Governor just wanted everyone dead and to take the prison. The weakness of Rick's group had nothing to do with it. That was a flat-out "sh-t happens" kind of moment.
• Joe? Rick didn't really get to know him the way Daryl did, or about their rules. They were rapists. They weren't really working him or anybody, they just showed up and pointed a gun at him.
• Clara? I think she fits the bolded sentence the best - she was outright playing on Rick's weakness and trying to take from him.
• Shane? Not really the same scenario.
• The guys in Nebraska? That seems the most likely - that was Rick confronting the ugliest part of humanity and they were definitely playing on his weakness. But that was so far back.

I think it's obviously supposed to be the Governor's actions that have jaded Rick this much. But, I feel like in the comic we get a better picture of how much the individual incidents affected Rick's moral code, and in the show it's a little less clear. Am I interpreting the bolded part too much?

Submitted June 03, 2020 at 12:51AM by ParmaProscuitto https://ift.tt/30eWBEv